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T7, T8, YH-820, YH-925 New Firmware Released Today

 Posted - 6/8/2005 7:35:38 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

PJPeter
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Most of the new versions are Ver. 50531 though some players have multiple versions and other software now.

If anyone is interested in getting any of these, ask me and I'll post them for you.

PJPeter


 Posted - 6/16/2005 12:48:26 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Sorry if this is a stupid question but when you say T7 is that short for YP-T7Z?
I should have a YP-T7Z on my doorstep when I get home tonight and if the new firmware for the T7 was released a week ago I doubt it will be on this unit.
That is if the T7 is the same as the YP-T7Z.
If that's the right firmware could you please provide a link where I could download it?

Thanks,
Ozzie


 Posted - 6/16/2005 1:43:09 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Here's a quick info post, seems a lot of ppl do not know this as well so it might help others as well.

Each Yepp player has a model # usually starting with 'YP-' followed by a designation code (such as 55, or T5 or T7 for instance) followed by either H, I, V, X, Z. This last letter indicates the actual capacity of the player. H = 128 MB, I = 192 MB, V = 256 (247) MB, X = 512 (497) MB, Z = 1 GB.

When I say just YP-T7 for instance that means I'm referring to all the size capacities of that model, so firmware for a YP-55 should work on a YP-55H, YP-55i, YP-55X, etc...


And now the new firmware has been posted - enjoy : ).


- One other thing, out of curiousity, where did you order your player and for how much? If you can write a short review of it with your first impressions that would be nice as well, if you're up for it.

- One last thing, there is a new version of 'Multimedia Studio' out for the YP-T7 - do you know what that is/do you want it?

Thanks,

PJPeter


Edited by - PJPeter on 6/16/2005 1:48:46 PM

 Posted - 6/16/2005 3:31:15 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Ozzie1957
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Thanks for the abbreviation info....I thought that's what you were using.
Also thanks for posting the firmware and yes I already downloaded the multimedia studio from the downloads section. Not sure what it is yet.

I ordered the T7 player last Thursday (June-9-05) from Amazon.com for $166.24 with no tax and free shipping.
UPS tracking says it on the truck for delivery today.
One week ....not bad.
In the interim I bought a Sony 512 mb (not sure of the model) from Wally World for
$99 plus tax to get me by till the T7 arrives.
Also about 3 weeks ago I bought a Samsung T6 256mb at Best Buy for $99 plus tax to try out and I loved the menu system and the ease of drag-n-drop folders to the player and creating a playlist if needed....very easy.
The screen was just too small for my old eyes so she had to go back.
I liked the larger color screen of the T7 (which has the same menu system) but they wanted $199 plus tax so I went with Amazon.

As far as this Sony compares to the T6, (which are the only players I've ever had) it's not even in the same league.
Very cheap plastic case, volume switch cheesy too.
Menu system is OK.
There's no FM radio like the T6 &T7 either (not that I would use it that much).
But for that price it should have an FM radio.
Included software is very non-intuitive and it's the only way you can get playable MP3s on it.
At this point I'm not even sure how I got the MP3's on there.....hehehe.
You can drag-n-drop folders and use it as a storage drive but MP3s will not play when downloaded that way.
Sound quality is good but it lacks volume.

BTW ...I'm using the Sony MDR-EX71SL Fontopia earbuds that go into your ear canal and they are awesome.
I bought them for mowing and they block out the external noises great.
A little on the basey side but with the T6 you have what seems like an unlimited number of choices with the equalizier and you can adjust the base away.
The Sony player doesn't give you many base/treble adjustment.

Well, enough blabbering for now... I'll write a review for ya after I use it for a couple days.

Ozzie


 Posted - 6/16/2005 4:55:21 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Thanks a lot for the info man, very comprehensive.

I actually am now able to test out a YP-T6X now myself - sort of. My sister wanted an MP3 Player, so I recommended a Samsung and this is what she got - so I'm setting it up for her. It's definately a lot different from my old and reliable YP-55V, better encoding quality, much louder, much more options (inc. Power Off @ up to 3 minutes) and a few other things. I'd consider getting a YP-T7 myself if it were not for the Rechargeable battery - because of that it sort of takes it out as an option for me at all. Samsung players are most certainly in a league of their own when it comes to quality.

Out of curiousity, did you buy the Sony with the intention of returning it after a week? Just curious.

One last comment, the MultimediaStudio isn't posted on the Downloads Page - its a completely different program from the Yepp Studio...well different anyway, I'm not exactly sure what either one does, lol.

Good luck and look forward to hearing from you again soon,


PJPeter


Edited by - PJPeter on 6/16/2005 9:27:21 PM

 Posted - 6/16/2005 8:56:22 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Ozzie1957
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I bought the Sony to compare to the T6 because they had good reviews from cnet. And if it was decent I was going to give it to my wife for her birthday last Friday since she thought the T6 was so cool.
But we were both so unimpressed with the Sony compared to the T6 I decided to just use it till the T7 came in.

I was considering an iAudio U2 too since they have such a good rating but they don't even come with a charger like the T7.
They can only be charged from the USB port on the PC.
Pretty much eliminates them from the picture.
I'd still like to try one just to see how the 95 db SNR
compares to the Samsung 89 db SNR.
But no local stores carry iAudio.
I don't know what I'll get for her.
Maybe we'll just share the T7 since there's 1 GB of storage space which is plenty for all of the favorites for both of us.

Like you, I also originally did not want a rechargeable battery and was dead-set on getting one with AA power.
That's why I chose the T6.
But unfortunately the extra battery weight, boxie shape, and tiny screen made it a less attractive choice for my needs.
I decided that 10 hours battery life for the T7 was acceptable for my needs.
I just hope the battery doesn't go bad because I don't know if it is end-user replacable.

I'm sitting here looking at the T7.... still in the people proof package.
I'll take it to work tomorrow and set it up.
I'll let ya know how it goes.

Good luck with the T6...it is awesome in it's own way and I'm sure you and your sis will love it.


Ozzie


 Posted - 6/16/2005 9:37:31 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Ah, well to me anyway, the T6 is insanely light, and definately a little too small. The LCD display on it is 1 line more than my YP-55, though I'd swear the text is a little smaller than on my player. I'm just so used to the AAA power that I don't even notice those things anymore after 2 years - though I suppose you have a point. The problem with the rechargeables of all kinds is that they eventually wear down - with my AAA Rechargeables I just pop in a new one, and they cost only about $2-5 CAD each. With those other players, like the iPods, when that battery wears down, that's it... I don't think the YP-T7 has a user replacable battery, though don't quote me on that. It'll probably last a very long time though with no problems - most people outgrow the storage size/capabilities of their players and are ready to go on to newer model by the time the batteries start dieing out anyway

As for me enjoying the T8, well that'll end soon - I'm just about done now with the setup so she wants it back - I'll be suprised if I see it again unless something goes wrong. Still, good experience playing around with it for a bit, it's really showed me how much the players have grown in the past couple of years.

But, anyway, I'm definately happy with my YP-55 and I'm sure you'll be happy with your T7 - looking forward to hearing how it goes.

PJPeter

Edited by - PJPeter on 6/16/2005 9:39:56 PM

 Posted - 6/21/2005 9:53:08 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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As far as me mentioning the T6 was too heavy, it may be more of how I'm using it. When I'm out throwing my 350 pound Gravely walk behind tractor around (or rather it throwing me) I notice the T6 flopping around a bit on my armband. It could be a combination of the shape and how much velcro surface I was able to use. I'm sure for most people it's still super light weight
OK...after using the T7 for a couple days, all I can say is I really like it. It's pretty much the same as the T6 I was using with respect to great sound quality and the easy (for me anyway) menu system. The differences are the shape (much thinner), it's a little lighter and of course the larger screen is much easier for me to see. And like the T6 it actually seems too small especially for people with large hands. But with my set up it is perfect. I use a 1" wide armband which is really a knee strap that I bought at Walmart for $5 in the bandage department. It's made out of a material that velcro likes to stick too so I put a little 1" square of the industrial strength velcro on the back of the T7 and it sticks anywhere on the armband. The setup works perfect with the short cable on the Sony Fontopia earbuds and I don't notice it flopping around at all when the Gravely tractor is thrashing me.
I haven't used it through a battery charge cycle yet but I've used it about 6 hours and the battery indicator is still pegged on full.....hmmmmm. There is a couple minor things I guess I should mention. Right out of the box it seemed to have a glitch where when I was several layers into the menu system it suddenly went back to the "Now Playing" screen without hitting return. It had 5.02 firmware so I upgraded it to 5.05 (thanks again CC) and that problem went away. And by the way, firmware upgrades are the easiest of any thing I have ever done. Simply drag-n-drop the 3 unzipped firmware files from your PC to the root directory of the player and power it off and on. It will see the files on boot and upgrade it automatically and doesn't delete any mp3's or change any settings. There is another problem that I will have to do more testing to confirm if it's real.....hehehe. After I set the "Preset EQ" (equalizer) to "User EQ" it stays on that setting until I power off the unit. Then when I turn it back on the "Preset EQ" is back to the "Normal" setting. It did this before and after the firmware upgrade. I do have to confirm the "Auto EQ" function is set to off to be sure it's not me. However I'm thinking if it saves the setting initially, it should still be set to that setting when powered back on.

Hope that helps and also if you want to seperate this thread into 2 since it really should be 2 threads, that would be great if you think it's necessary.


 Posted - 6/21/2005 12:47:19 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Cool, your armband setup sounds quite interesting.

Good to hear its working out for you. And I never knew the Firmware upgrading on the T7 is that easy - I'm guessing it will be like that on all the newer Samsung Players as well which will be great when I upgrade : ).

Ah well, I can't really split the thread, but even if I could I see no need for it. True, maybe posting all this in this thread wasn't the best thing, but it's here now, so lets keep it continuous : )

PJPeter


 Posted - 7/21/2005 10:58:25 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

kannasai
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I would appreaciate a firmware for my YH-820.
I was under an impression that it could play OGG when I purchased it a few months back, but was disappointed to find out that it doesn't. Certain website lists
the OGG as one of the supported files playback.
And by the way, is using the YEPP Studio better than Samsung Music Studio bundled with CD?  

 Posted - 7/22/2005 6:15:58 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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There is a new Yepp Studio version included in the Downloads section of this site - give it a try and judge for yourself : ). I can't say though sorry, when I got my Yepp they didn't bundle them that way - maybe a more recent purchaser can tell you. Update: I don't think that Yepp Studio would work for your player. It seems that Samsung Music Studio and Yepp Studio are two different pieces of software - the YH-820 should be able to use both

Sorry, but there doesn't appear to be newer YH-820 firmware online in the special sites. You can try the Samsung.com/samsung.ca/Samsungusa.com and sites like those though. But the sites that aren't fully public don't seem to have any firmware for that player, sorry. I apologize for posting above that there was new firmware on the site - it seems that they put new firmware and new versions of Multimedia Studio online for the YP-T7 and T6 but the YH players only got the new Multimedia Studio version.

PJPeter


Edited by - PJPeter on 7/22/2005 3:38:47 PM
  

 Posted - 7/26/2005 3:25:43 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hi, I'm new here. I've had my YP-T7Z for about 4 months now.

I was looking at the YP-T7 firmware files here in your download section, and compared them to the files that I had previously downloaded from Samsung's website.

The file that I was able to download from Samsung is named, "20050418170622312_YPT7_0315UC.zip" and has not changed in over 3 months. Even though the Samsung website says that it was updated on 6/29/05.

The actual firmware itself is in the YP_T7.ROM file contained within the zip file. In the above zip archive, the date of the YP_T7.ROM file is 3/15/2005.

I emailed Samsung support a few days ago asking about this, and got a canned response... basically telling me to call the 1-800-SAMSUNG number. I might do that later this week.

Anyway, the other thing that I was noticing here on your site, is that you have a different zip archive for the T7 firmware, called "YP-T7_V[1].5.05.15.zip", which would make me think that it would have a May 15, 2005 YP_T7.ROM file date and thus be newer than what I downloaded from Samsung. But when I opened that zip file, I see that the YP_T7.ROM file is dated 5/16/2004...

Of course that can't be right, because the YP_T7 wasn'te even out yet last year, correct?

So my question is, where'd you obtain that firmware, since it doesn't match the Samsung product support download page's version of the firmware?

If anyone could help clear up this confusion for me, I'd appreciate it.

Also to note, you can check the version of the firmware on the YP-T7 by pressing the joystick in till you get the "main menu", then navigating to Settings, then down to System, then About, then Version. Mine says "5.03.15UC" (using the firmware that I downloaded back in the beginning of April.

It's definitely worth it to upgrade the firmware, the version that mine came loaded with had problems playing Ogg Vorbis files (of any quality setting). The symptom was that the file would play about a half second, then start over and play through to the end normally. Very annoying when tracks would change.

Other than this firmware issue, I've had great success with this player, I've played everything from q0 to q10 in the Ogg Vorbis format, purchased WMA files, and of course regular WMA and MP3. Now I just wish that Samsung could add Janus support for the subscription-based music services. I suspect that the T7 and "older" flash players can't handle this, but you never know.


  


 Posted - 7/26/2005 6:57:41 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Well, about the dates on files, they are not always reliable. All it takes is for the original user to either not have the date set correctly on their computer (which many people don't) or for it to be corrupted in some way. For instance, all files I create on my YP-55 say they were created in December 2001 - because the YP-55 has no internal clock, it has no idea what date to put on the files. Plus, a product doesn't have to be out to need programming - they need to develop at least a first version long before its released.

I get the firmware from various sources including a Korean Samsung Site. In Korea the products are released much earlier and they are given much more support. New firmware is posted there months before its posted on any of the North American or Global Samsung sites, if at all.

Not sure to make sense of the rest of your message - are you saying the software version on this site is older than what you got from the Samsung site? Not just based on the date of one file, but in general?  

One thing I'll mention though - the T7 Firmware version on the site was first posted online on June 16th, 2005.

Oh and one more thing. What is it that you are asking the Samsung Support for?

PJPeter

Edited by - PJPeter on 7/26/2005 7:03:44 AM
  

 Posted - 7/27/2005 12:50:32 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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My questions are all about the different firmware versions. I'll try to explain further:

1. The US Samsung site claims that the T7 firmware was updated on 6/29/2005, yet the files *inside* the Zip files there are the same as they were in April 2005. What I downloaded on 7/21.2005  is identical to what I had downloaded on 4/1/2005. I checked the MD5 hashes of the YP_T7.ROM file, they are identical. Here's the MD5 hash in case anyone is interested: 57feeb5777fc0fe4be25a83c20a61715    YP_T7.rom  (dated 3/16/2005, insde these zip files:
20050326093314906_YPT7_0216UC.zip
and
20050418170622312_YPT7_0315UC.zip

And as noted above, my T7 reports this as version "5.03.15UC" when I drill down the menus to find it.

So that's my question to Samsung support, why would they list the firmware as updated but the contents of the files not changing. My best guess is that they've made a mistake, and not really provided updated firmware on the US site since sometime in April. I will try to call them tomorrow and will post the results of that call.

2. The second question that I posted above had to do with the firmware that you are hosting here - you've already answered that, in that you are obtaining these files from the Korean version of the Samsung site.

I agree with you that I can't be certain that the firmware you have provided is older than what's on the US Samsung  site, just because the file date of the YP_T7.ROM file inside the zip file seems to indicate that could be the case. I understand what you're saying about the files on your YP-55, but in this case we are talking about a firmware release from the manufacturer. Those files inside the zip archive have the date as they came from within Samsung, not from my computer or yours. Is it possible that the Samsung developer who packaged the T7 firmware had an incorrect date set on his/her computer? Yes, it is, but this gives a cold squishy feeling instead of a warm fuzzy one, if you get my meaning.

Overall it seems to me that Samsung's process for providing firmware updates could use some better quality control. A change log or release notes for the firmware updates would also be very useful. Also providing MD5 hashes of the files would help ensure that we have the correct files and that they have not been corrupted somehow. I will make these suggestions to Samsung support when I call them.  


 Posted - 7/29/2005 9:11:38 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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I called Samsung support today. Unfortunately their "MP-3 player specialist" was out of the office for the day.

The technician whom I did speak to checked their YP-T7 that they have there, and it is loaded with the same firmware that I have (meaning the same as from 4/1/2005). He also said that even though the website may say that the files were updated at the end of June, he doesn't know of any updates to the T7 firmware that have come out recently, and they could very well be the same files.

He put my support ticket in the queue for the MP-3 Specialist and asked that person to follow up with me next week. I'll post the results of  that followup when I get them.  

 

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