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Review: G51JX-A1 Review

 Posted - 2/17/2011 3:23:59 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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PJPeter

Found the store in Europe who can deliver the 2nd / HD bay for the G51 and other nice stuff.

http://nl.eetnordic.com


 Posted - 2/19/2011 7:31:08 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Thanks for the info Marcel, I may very well do that - I'm currently completely wiping my G51Jx - it's been just over a year since I got it and I never did a clean install - hoping for a much more responsive system again, maybe better than day one without any of that excess software to worry about .

Will provide a link to the guide I'm using if it works out and any extra tips or things I notice while doing so - just downloading the newest drivers, robocopying to back everything up now, then tonight, wipe and refresh .

PJPeter


 Posted - 2/20/2011 8:02:33 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hey,

As an update, I did the reinstall. The guide I was using was ok, but there were a number of holes and errors, so I wouldn't share it. It might have just been out of date, but it had me looking around for drivers one only needed with XP or that just didn't exist for the G51Jx.

Here's the order I installed things after my clean Windows 7 Install (note I did my clean install by using the included DVD, remembering I was G51Jx User Alpha online anyway and I definitely got one of the first units very early February 2010 and the W7 ASUS OEM Installer DVD was included - meaning I've never had to use my W7 HP key from the bottom of the laptop ). I just started the install, selected one partition, held down the power off button until shut down when the installer asked me to 'Insert the Support Disc' and kept the setup going DVD-less from there.

The order and drivers/utilities I installed were in the following order, and it appears my sys is working so I'll share it - I rebooted each time there's a number - all drivers are from Support.ASUS.Com unless noted otherwise or the filename is given:

1 Nvidia (01-266.58_notebook_winvista_win7_64bit_international_whql)
2 RealTek HD Audio drivers (HD Audio Driver Vista_Win7_R257)
3 Chicony_CNF_7129_CR Camera Driver, (Sonix260) WebCamera Driver 61.5.200.270 USB\VID_04F2&PID_B106&MI_00 (Specific to my sys, there are other options depending on dev id)
ATK Driver-2
ATK FGNFEX Driver
ATK HotKey
ATK Media
ATK 0-SD2
4 Power4Gear Hybrid v1.25
(Intel Turbo Boost Driver, would not install - works without it in W7 x64 it seems)
IRST Driver (Intel Rapid Storage)
Intel MEI
5 BlueTooth Drivers - Broadcom (Downloaded from Broadcom website, ASUS ones would not install)
6 Atheros LAN Driver
7 Wireless Console
Wireless LAN (Atheros WiFi) Driver
Keyboard Filter Driver
8 (Card Reader, would not install)
Fastboot
Synaptics Touchpad Driver
9 Splendid Utility
LifeFrame (to test Webcam)
(ExpressGate, zip download from ASUS was corrupted, not really needed anyway, I always regret the limited system and it takes more time to work on it than to just boot up fully)
- Ran Windows Update

Confirmed everything is working and it's doing so quite well. Much faster and more responsive than before - definitely worth it. I never intended not to clean install right away, but I was testing out so many things for the review that I just never got around to it - after a year with all that extra stuff installed, this definitely helps. Asus Data Security Manager was even causing blue screens when I was copying the files off - despite having never even been configured - so glad to be rid of it. The computer runs much cooler as well, the left palm rest was almost always warm before even when I wasn't doing anything processor/RAM intensive - now it's comfortable.

Definitely worth the couple of days it took to back everything up and get it all set up.

One thing I didn't do was upgrade the BIOS - I see 208 is now available, and one of the statements about it is that upgrading allows you to boot the system without the ODD, or with something other than the ODD, in that slot. Does anyone else have any experience with it? I've been using 206 for awhile now - but it appears for some people 207/208 BIOS updates will kill their bluetooth and they sometimes have to send in for repair - I'd hate to risk that when everything seems to be working fine now - well not until my warranty period is nearly over anyway, just incase. Anyone have any thoughts on this?

Hope this guide is helpful to someone (maybe myself someday ),

PJPeter


 Posted - 2/20/2011 9:17:18 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

mhthomas
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Good post.

I get blue screens from the paid version of zone alarm, on W7x64.

Also, I am very happy with mine. :)


 Posted - 2/21/2011 7:48:48 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hello all, I've recently encountered a problem with the G51jx-A1 's heat sensor. Particularly the one under the fan cooling both the GPU and CPU.

Every time i would shut my computer while leaving it on, (I turned off suspend on close), eventually it would overheat. I cracked the baby open today to inspect the problem, it was actually the sensor underneath the fan, but removing the fan breaks the warranty, so i stayed clear and used compressed air to the entire unit, I saw a chunk of dust about 1"x1" come out in one fell swoop, it immediately ratified the problem. I notice now the fan does not want (or need) to operate at full speed, at which it was doing when i closed the laptop.

Anyone else experience any of these issues.

Also, when i was inspecting the unit, i found a third antenna next to the WLAN module, i wonder if that can be used at all for anything?


 Posted - 2/21/2011 12:36:25 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Thanks for that info mhthomas - and glad you liked it

Hey Nokuma, Good to hear from you - It's interesting that it would overheat from that, my G732 had a huge fan intake on the top that would be blocked off. I don't see anything like that here - though I suppose it is probably taking in air through the chiclet keyboard. I also set for 'Do Nothing' on lid close and do close it quite often, but Ive never had the system shut down on me when I've done so. Glad that getting out that dust helped - I opened mine up today after you said that and did find some dust, and one of which on top of the fan was a fairly significant ball, though not as big as your chunk. It also seems to be quieter for me now as well, which is definitely welcome . I wish the left palmrest did not get hot (though I know with the GPU right under it, there's not much chance of that) - it's already starting to heat up with me just posting here - I'd never realized in the past while people were happy to have 'ice cold' palmrests - now I know - the heat there is quite uncomfortable. I also cleaned out the dust from my CoolerMaster cooling pad/stand and I just turned it out - it's unfortunate that it has no off switch and therefore keeps up even when the laptop is on standby, but at least it is quiet enough and to have a cool palmrest and potentially longer component lifespan - can be worth the trade off.

About the antenna, I thought I'd said something about that somewhere, I found it in the first post in my first pic of the laptop's innards:

quote:
"You can also see the third antenna connection that is not currently attached to the default Mini Wireless Card (red box)."


It'd be nice to be able to make use of it - wonder if there might be different sensitivies depending which are used - maybe if we switched them it might help Wifi Connectivity maybe. I'm guessing there are cards out there that can take all 3 inputs, just that our current one does not - don't quote me on that though, but I think I've seen some out there like that. I was helping a friend with her Dell laptop and she had 3 of those Mini-PCI ports and both a cell and wifi card in her system - so that could also be a component capability mismatch possibly.

What's annoying is that there appears to be some particles under the screen - possibly right under the first layer. It's caused a small black spot on the screen, pure black and very visble on the task bar. It's maybe a milimetre tall and half that wide - I'm guessing some dust or something got in between - I thought I only had a 1 year warranty, but that was only for the ADW - seeing that it's two years and I live only a few minutes from the Canadian service centre, I might take it in sometime. Almost definitely going to put on more and better thermal paste when the warranty expires - though I wouldn't void it doing so myself now. Almost a full year left on it though, so still time till then.


PJPeter


 Posted - 2/21/2011 1:02:36 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Nokuma
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I fix and rebuild tv sets. It's the telltale signs of a bad panel bi have it to by Ive been negligent to fix it. You can order a new Panel from their e-store

 Posted - 2/21/2011 1:19:05 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hey Nokuma, thanks for the reply. You're saying it's the sign of a bad panel (or bad panel B specifically, or was that a typo)? Now that I'm paying attention, there's also dust in the top of the panel as well, but it is a bit fainter and you can see through it slightly. Both are quite noticable.

I wouldn't want to pay for a new panel and take all the time to take the system apart and install if it's under warranty (especially since that might break it I think...) - this is not issues with dead pixels, but that there are physical panel issues and I hope they'll cover it. Otherwise the panel is pixel perfect as near as I can see, I hope any replacement would be likewise. You're sure they wouldn't be able to just clean it out and seal it up? That it would need a replacement?

Thanks for your feedback,

PJPeter


 Posted - 2/21/2011 2:09:23 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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PJPeter,

Nice to see the install was no issue. There's no guide needed by using the ASUS DVD. The installation goes smoothly, you get some unneeded stuff from ASUS but it's easy to lose of the grab.

After the installation made a good backup the get back to that cleanstate in a blink. I'll use the Home server for that.
A no worry backup and file storage solution.

The bluescreen you mention i'll never seen that one with that application.


 Posted - 2/22/2011 8:07:36 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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Nokuma,

Question; Also, when i was inspecting the unit, i found a third antenna next to the WLAN module, i wonder if that can be used at all for anything?

Answer; Some place a Intel 6300 wirelesscard into the G51 i have read in some forums so you can use the third antenna.

http://www.intel.com/products/wireless/adapters/6300/index.htm


 Posted - 2/25/2011 6:29:09 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Asus G51 seems to be clean form error in the new Sandy Bridge-based Intel® 6 Series support chip.

An open letter to ASUS customers and partners
Proactively responding to the Intel-identified Sandy Bridge chipset design error
Delivering a prompt recovery plan to customers, ASUS provides comprehensive return and replacement services for every product affected by this issue

Read all about it on the ASUS site.

http://www.asus.com/News.aspx?N_ID=Ur1Kv9j1fVCIDeRD


 Posted - 2/25/2011 7:11:20 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Ya confirmed the G51Jx is not affected, but it's good to see ASUS being so proactive on these things - I might have a motherboard or might have bought one for someone's desktop though, I'll take a look and see if the model #s match - list is posted here - thanks for the info.

PJPeter


 Posted - 3/17/2011 6:50:07 AM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

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Hi,
I'm from Turkey and I bought the Asus-G51Jx-A1 laptop last summer from a retailer in the USA. I was wondering if I could upgrade my GPU (to a GTX 460m)?

 Posted - 4/6/2011 1:57:46 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

PJPeter
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Hi denizsimsek06,

Sorry I didn't get back to you. There is a slight chance it may work - but the MMX in it is reversed I think (it was discussed earlier in the thread) and you would need there to be some compatible coding in the BIOS - and I don't know if those conditions exist.

Is anyone else thinking of upgrading their GPUs? For me if I did anything to my system I would repaste the internal components because as it is, the system gets quite hot on the palm rests and runs loud often. But first I'll try to get the dirt inside the screen issues taken care of - have to go down to the ASUS service centre and ask them one of these days...

Peter

PJPeter


 Posted - 4/8/2011 3:01:29 PM  - Show Profile  Edit Message

Marcel
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Hello denizsimsek06,

I'll think if you want to upgrade buy a desktop.
A laptop and then special a ROC model is optimized and tuned for the embedded hardware. If you want more excl.  disk and memory, then you have to invest in a new system.

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